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Teaninich 08-year-old - Rye Rebel Diageo Special Releases 2025

Teaninich

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Отзывы о Teaninich 8-летней выдержки Rye Rebel Diageo Special Releases 2025 расходятся: одни называют эксперимент удачным и интересным, другие — слишком спиртуозным, зерновым и незрелым.
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В текстовых отзывах это виски чаще всего описывают как необычный эксперимент с рожью, который вызывает поляризованные впечатления. Сторонники отмечают интересный характер: зерновые и ржаные ноты, специи, сладость, фрукты, ваниль, мёд, а также неожиданную для 8-летнего зернового виски плотность и маслянистость. Некоторые прямо называют его удачным опытом и одним из лучших зерновых виски, который они пробовали, а также отмечают, что он хорошо переносит добавление воды. При этом часть отзывов указывает на высокую крепость, резкость, спиртуозность и доминирующую пряность, из-за чего напиток кажется трудным для питья. Критические отзывы чаще касаются незрелости и слабой интеграции ржавых нот с бурбонной бочкой: его описывают как слишком зерновой, «свежий дистиллят», с горьковато-вяжущим вкусом, водочными и мыльными оттенками, а также коротким или сухим финишем. Несколько отзывов называют его скорее любопытным исследованием, чем напитком для повседневного удовольствия, и сомневаются в повторной покупке. В целом тексты не образуют единого мнения: положительные и отрицательные оценки соседствуют, а общий тон — «интересный, но спорный эксперимент».

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Hvdree Connoisseur 85 08 oct 2025 11:50 pm

нос 86 · вкус 85 · финиш 84

Izzino Connoisseur 86 22 oct 2025 9:59 pm
This is really bad. I wonder if it's worse than the Hungarian 12 year old
Tommy7817 Expert Senior 84 06 nov 2025 9:22 pm

нос 83 · вкус 84 · финиш 84

Peatyjohn Expert Senior 79 15 nov 2025 2:39 pm
As a rye fan, this does not work for me. The light rye cask influences are there, but does not seem to integrate well with the bourbon. I even preferred the JW rye cask finish to this at a fraction of the price.
Tommyknocker Connoisseur 69 21 nov 2025 8:29 pm
It smells and tastes very much like any generic new make spirit. Perhaps that was the intention, or perhaps the differences to American rye were overlooked. American rye is typically matured in virgin oak barrels at much higher temperatures, resulting in intense oak aromas early on. Unfortunately, this rye, matured in ex-bourbon casks in Scotland for eight years, shows hardly any maturation, but instead produces a lot of fresh distillate. An interesting product that will surely still grace the shelves of backstreet tobacconists in Europe 20 years from now.
Brachaci Member Senior 83 11 aug 2026 8:49 pm
Benco37 Expert Senior 83 12 oct 2025 4:30 pm
Because I absolutely don't like rye, with that ABV it's a nice drink but not my cup of coffee
JBKwb Connoisseur 81 27 oct 2025 7:35 pm

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Dris Connoisseur 85 31 dec 2025 2:07 am
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Нос85+
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Simon Stood Connoisseur 84 06 jun 2026 5:38 pm

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lukasz12 Expert Senior 84 23 jun 2026 11:45 pm
Fruits, biscuits, pepper, salt, peach and honey

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chammeul Member Junior 86 26 jun 2026 6:09 pm
I believe this is my first time exploring a single grain whisky, and I would certainly call it a success. While the palate leans somewhat spicy and dry, the nose and finish are delightfully sweet and tart, offering a complex and entertaining array of aromas. It was a fascinating experience to find such a distinct confectionery and bubblegum-like character in this dram.
taucherer Expert Senior 86 17 oct 2025 2:04 pm
I don't detect any grainy notes, but it's a bit too sweet - the impression is that one glass would be enough. However, if having a single drink at a bar, it would be satisfying. It would be difficult to commit to a whole bottle.

нос 86 · вкус 87 · финиш 86

Glenrothes1973 Connoisseur 82 01 nov 2025 10:17 pm

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alex..w..fan Connoisseur 81 20 dec 2025 6:18 pm
An interesting experiment, but nothing more... Malt is malt, and there is no better grain for whiskey in the world, in my humble opinion. 21 20 20 20 81
Stanzeflasche Connoisseur 87 25 jan 2026 10:01 am
On the nose, toast spread with a generous layer of butter, toasted cereals—rye is particularly recognizable—puffed rice, muesli, rustic honey. Country bread, wood chips, freshly cut wheat, lemon candies, thick caramel. On the palate, it's creamier, with delicate vanilla and various citrus fruits. It's slightly acidic, but the spices quickly make their presence felt. Light woody and herbaceous notes. The finish is medium in length but powerful, with charcoal, peach pits, dried apricots, coconut, roasted corn, and Ovaltine. As for me, I find it to be an interesting experience; it has character, it has energy, I like this strong presence of cereals. https://ilikesky2020.blogspot.com/2026/01/teaninich-8-yo-special-relase-2025.html

нос 87 · вкус 85 · финиш 89

malograna Expert Senior 84 08 sep 2026 6:16 am

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Whisky_Art Expert Senior 80 03 nov 2025 12:27 pm
I imagine it was difficult to expect more, but the initial experience with the glass rightfully led one to expect more than a rather dull and flat grain.
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Нос85At the forefront, is filled with the sweetness of fruit and pastries, including peach, melon, apricot, and apple, accompanied by vanilla cream, malt biscuits, maple honey, and white chocolate. A tangy and "spirited" undertone hints at what is in the glass, yet does not impair the overall pleasantness of the aroma, with a slight spicy touch of cinnamon and nutmeg. An elegance that takes you by surprise.
Вкус79It becomes less rounded and spicier, with an abundance of black pepper and ginger and a pinch of anise added to the other spices. The grainy character emerges strongly, becoming dry and bitter at the expense of softness, which is relegated to brief flashes at the beginning of the sip, while the bitter component dominates the palate in length. Sugar paste, marzipan, green apple, and a hint of balsamic act as spectators. Slightly saline towards the end.
Финиш77Not very long and dry, bitter-sweet with hints of wet cereal.
LongPourAmourBlog Expert Senior 81 10 nov 2025 8:56 pm
Review on 24 November 2025 on my blog: www.longpouramour.com My conclusion about this whisky: "Certainly not an easy whisky, but incredibly fascinating. I hope Diageo did some more experiments with this distillate, for instance maturing it on virgin oak. They could make a little series out of it. The alcohol is too high, that is a big weak spot here. In the end, this is a well-balanced whisky, but it also shows why malted barley is the superior ingredient for distilling in batch a.k.a. with the pot still."
Cubey666 Connoisseur 84 12 may 2026 8:56 pm
Interesting experiment, i like it
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Нос85lemon, vanilla, sugar, coconut, malts, spices, green grass.
Вкус83oranges, bit of fresh alcohol, coconut, vanilla, some fruits.
Финиш84lemon, oak, peppery, warming, bit like a pineapple, fresh and fruity yet sturdy.
Crushed_ldH Connoisseur 85 12 jun 2026 6:11 am

нос 86 · вкус 85 · финиш 85

MAXOESI Connoisseur 87 27 sep 2026 5:55 pm
I enjoy its taste neat, but the aroma is enhanced with plenty of water. Certainly one of the best grain whiskies I've ever tasted.

нос 88 · вкус 87 · финиш 86

MaltVader Connoisseur 84 13 oct 2025 9:16 pm
Lots of grain, sour rotten fruit, herbs, freshly ground pepper, tannins, a touch of citrus, buttery biscuits. Spicy on the tongue, plenty of tannins, more sweetness, sweet orchard fruit, citrus and grass, and vanilla.

нос 84 · вкус 85 · финиш 84

whisky666 Connoisseur 85 25 nov 2025 12:46 am

нос 86 · вкус 85 · финиш 84

Wal Expert Junior 86 23 jan 2026 7:21 pm
aroma: smoked salty cheese, rye bread, pear, gooseberry, tropical fruits, pineapple, vanilla, dried herbs, crème brûlée, lemon peel, spices. I like this nose 86.5 Taste: wow, very unusual, chamomile? Cardamom, rye bread crust, allspice, the taste is quite spicy and tannic, a little dried herbs, tropical fruits 86. finish: medium length, dried herbs, papaya, spices, citrus 86 wonderful unusual whiskey

нос 87 · вкус 86 · финиш 86

Dionysus Connoisseur 84 22 apr 2026 8:15 pm

нос 85 · вкус 84 · финиш 84

Victor_Harri Expert Senior 88 12 sep 2026 11:43 pm
Most amazing 8 year old...which i was never suspect is a grain whisky. As if 20+
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Нос88fresh but ripe pear above all.
Вкус88Syrupy, like a wild tree beehive
Финиш87even here the grain is hard to suspect.
kbs26 Connoisseur 85 12 oct 2025 10:23 pm

нос 86 · вкус 85 · финиш 84

Capodonich Connoisseur 85 14 oct 2025 9:17 pm

нос 86 · вкус 84 · финиш 84

Michalmusial1 Expert Junior 75 21 nov 2025 9:59 pm
definietly not for my taste
Matthias80 Expert Senior 85 07 dec 2025 10:58 pm
Sample of Whisky & Music Volkhaus 2025 tasted. 12/25 I have a certain aversion to single grain whiskies. And then this one is only 8 years old, so it hasn't even been barrel-aged yet... Well. But: I'm pleasantly surprised by the dram. Strong, because it's quite strong (take small sips - 60% ABV) and has a lovely aroma. It gets better from the nose to the finish.
kawhi Connoisseur 84 18 dec 2025 6:26 am
Overall Review: "Satisfied because it's under 100,000 won (68 dollars)." This quality for under 100,000 won in Korea? You pass. Think about what Scotches you can find for under 90,000 won, and then consider what the CS lineup is like. It's not particularly off-notes that make it difficult to drink, and it gives a nice dopamine hit. I'm hesitant to buy a second bottle, but at least it's not a drink you'll find difficult to resist. It seems like it would perform quite well with a highball, cola, or ice. cf) I'm a bit disappointed with the lowest price of 60 GBP for the whiskey base. The second cheapest, 77 GBP? It seems like a better option.
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Нос83Nothing special. Although the grassy nuance is strong, the grain-specific bitterness is much less than I had feared. The volume itself is weak, like a mix of refill and permanent bourbon, so it's a shame. It doesn't feel like off-notes are prominent and difficult to smell. It's a nice balance of bright honey, grass, a little apple, and tropical fruit.
Вкус86Oh... It's much more decent than I thought. The grassy, herbal greenness is quite interesting, different from the funkiness typical of American rye whiskey. There's also a slightly bubblegum-like funky feel mixed in. The sweetness is strong, but even though it's bright with a honey-like nuance, the rich sweetness between toffee and caramel is the main flavor. The fruitiness is not strong, but typical bourbon notes such as apple, pineapple, lychee, coconut, and faint jackfruit. The bitterness of the grain is completely covered by the other notes, so it feels like you have to really look for it.
Финиш84The finish is medium-length, with a strong rye-like nuance, but a hint of bourbon supporting the palate. The finish has a slightly grainy aftertaste, which is a minor drawback.
Doenze Expert Senior 70 10 oct 2025 1:22 pm
Horrible. Moldy flavour. Very very alcohol-forward
thijs100 Connoisseur 80 21 oct 2025 2:01 pm
Much more elegant and approachable than I expected based on its raw ingredients and high alcohol content.
kroy Expert Junior 80 23 oct 2025 7:42 pm
I like it but it is quite strong. For Polish person it really gives vibe of bimber, but in top quality. A lot of fruits, pepper, banana, harshness.
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Нос82Some fruits, alcohol, rye, banana, sweet,
Вкус79Very intensive, banana, pepper, spices, rye, little bit “bimber”/moonshine taste,
Финиш79Long, quite balanced, not to sweet, spicy, wood, rye harshness,
Schusti_94 Expert Senior 86 25 oct 2025 9:12 am
The rye content is probably rather low. I detect mainly grain notes here. But it's good for such a young grain.

нос 85 · вкус 86 · финиш 86

Whisky.Hedonist.MY Connoisseur 87 03 apr 2026 2:37 am

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whiskytornado Connoisseur 85 03 oct 2025 2:51 pm

нос 85 · вкус 85 · финиш 86

DerHansDerKanns Expert Senior 83 14 nov 2025 9:48 pm
I was really looking forward to that one. I'm always up for experimenting like that, and I like rye. This one has potential, but it's very intense. A 10% reduction wouldn't have hurt it at all.
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Нос83For me, it's a real flashback to the bakery from my old job: sweet, rich rye malt. Then comes a perfumed note.
Вкус84Intense. Very spicy and alcoholic. It takes some getting used to. Lots of rye spice, vanilla, and the perfumed note is (unfortunately) back again.
Финиш83Long and very spicy.
FrancoM Expert Junior 81 22 nov 2025 4:26 pm

нос 82 · вкус 81 · финиш 81

ryju007 Connoisseur 83 30 nov 2025 4:56 pm

нос 85 · вкус 83 · финиш 82

herdertje Expert Senior 86 22 apr 2026 7:52 pm

нос 86 · вкус 86 · финиш 85

Sporx Connoisseur 86 13 oct 2025 7:51 am
Whisky Live Messe HH, therefore only a short review from memory
flip1234 Expert Junior 82 17 oct 2025 7:38 pm
Some unusual notes makes this a pretty fun whisky to try. It's not bad either. It's very weak for the specs though. There are 40-43% whiskies that give off more taste. The notes are also not entirely pleasant, and it is very watery in texture (not viscous)
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Нос82Spirity, very empty, then a butter note and some fermented fruit. A vodka note shows up. Cheese as well - increasingly as I drink and smell again. Not very inviting, but not entirely off putting either
Вкус83First nothing, then sourness touching the tongue. Not as spirity as the nose indicated. Sourness turns into sour fruits and berries. Some bitterness. Cardboard. Gentle spices and then comes some of the fermented fruitiness, now mostly pear and some peaches. Feels a bit sandy. Pretty interesting
Финиш82Disappears very quickly. Some slight bitterness and sourness is left
StefanKatonaXXL Expert Senior 80 31 oct 2025 8:06 pm
Despite the very negative comments about this whiskey, I started tasting it with gusto, because somehow these unusual distillates attract me. I will try to rate it without being influenced by the opinions of others. So: In the aroma, besides the very pronounced grainy and spicy scent of rye, there is also a strong, almost perfume-like scent of some potted plant, along with a surprising freshness, but also with the smell of industrial soap. At the end, a subtle hint of vanilla and a sweet scent of powdered sugar. The taste is not so pleasant anymore. Too much alcohol spiciness, some disturbing bitterness, tannicity, woodiness. As a whole it does not work well at all, I would be afraid to blindly comment on this distillate whether it is even whiskey... And I didn't mention the price tag...
robbert88 Connoisseur 80 13 dec 2025 10:13 pm
The whisky I was most curious about, even though I'm not a rye fan. It's really nice to try a rye from the Teaninich distillery, but it's not overly distinctive. I wonder if there will be more batches of this.
duranadavid Expert Senior 79 29 apr 2026 6:56 pm
scent: harsh, grassy, herbal, grain taste: rough, grass, hay, rye, homemade Young whiskey, rye, this doesn't suit everyone
Koning Connoisseur 86 21 nov 2025 10:18 am
This Teaninich is composed of an experimental batch distilled in 2016 in which rye was used. It is indeed very different from a regular malt Teaninich. It's got more spice and sweetness while lacking the freshness and slightly industrial touch. It also lacks the the typical glue-note that tends to come with Scotch single grain, which normally indicates the use of wheat or corn in addition to barley (malt). Although I only tasted this one briefly during a Special Release master class, I already deem this a succesful experiment!
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Нос86A sweet and spicy nose. On the background there's something floral and savoury, and a tiny whiff of smoke (which is not uncommon for Teaninich in my experience) .
Вкус86Again rather sweet and spicy, that must be the rye talking! Develops on citrus fruits, vanilla fudge and maybe some banana.
Финиш87A continuation of the palate, with spices lingering for a long time.
NieZnajacSieNaWhisky Expert Senior 84 29 nov 2025 9:47 pm
Nose: lots of fruit, white chocolate, caramel, vanilla, toffee, menthol, ripe pear, raspberries, apples. Taste: honeydew honey, coconut, ginger, liquorice, lots of sweetness — candyfloss, papaya, baked pear, apple pie. Very thick and oily. Finish: dark chocolate, white pepper, liquorice, burnt caramel, buckwheat honey. Long and surprisingly intense. On paper, nothing adds up here: age, casks, raw materials. And yet... it works great. Despite its extreme strength, the whisky is surprisingly drinkable, smooth and sweet.
Thomas75 Expert Senior 75 25 jan 2026 8:41 am
Nose Fruity grain notes take center stage, more like young fruit than a ripe basket. Apple slices, pear, a hint of grape sugar. Beneath this lies a lot of freshly ground, slightly mealy grain. A simple sweetness. Then a touch of wet chalk, damp cellar floor, cool and mineral. The taste The initial taste is surprisingly mild. Sweet, soft, almost harmless. For a moment, you believe in balance. Then the alcohol hits, uncompromisingly, directly. The spiciness dominates, pushing everything else to the sidelines. With water, even more grain, even more raw spirit character. The spiciness remains present, almost stoic. The whisky takes water well; in fact, it needs it. But it doesn't reward it with new aromas. What's there remains what you get. Conclusion An angular Teaninich. More of a study than a pleasure drink. Interesting for the analytical palate, less so for the dreamy whisky romantic. A whisky that can handle a lot of water, but reveals little.
CluaranDeilgneach Member Senior 85 05 aug 2026 12:22 am
This wee beast is a curious one. It is merely 8yo and presents its youth without any hesitation, and even though being grain whisky, without any modesty - on the nose and palate it remains mostly cereal, with lemons, mead, muesli with apples; however its not any young grain I am acquainted with - it has body, texture, some oilyness, and what is most important - taste that I can handle with, making every sip enjoyable enough... It will never replace single malt whisky, nor does it intend to. I find this experiment interesting, worth trying, and making your own opinion.
Izzino Connoisseur 86 05 aug 2026 10:37 pm
Aroma: distinct cereal, spicy, clean, grainy profile - such a dry green character Taste: sweet, honey-like to candy-like, distinctly spicy * When I first drank this whiskey, it seemed very strange to me, but today I consider it an interesting experiment and a pleasant shot. * After diluting with water, the whiskey remains almost candy-like, but with a plastic aftertaste. This whiskey definitely needs to be drunk more times.

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